12.21.2013

My [Crude] Thoughts on Gays and the New Testament


If you are easily offended or a little bit squeamish of sex-related topics, please don't read what I'm about to write.

I also feel the need to point out that I do not believe my opinion must be everyone's opinion. My stance on Christianity since I was baptized at 16 has changed radically. My thoughts on the Bible and how it should be interpreted have often similarly changed; and continue to change as I am challenged by believers and non-believers who are on a similar truth-seeking path. Right now I am at a place where I believe wholeheartedly with the message of Jesus Christ as it was told by men. I've interpreted their interpretations (and various translations) of Jesus to the result that this "son of God" is someone whose message I want to follow and live out. I believe that Jesus Christ lived and died for my sins.

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I feel the need to spell this out because the fact is, I believe the Old and New Testaments of the Bible (while divinely inspired) were written by men. Men in a much different context than our own. I believe there is an inordinate amount of truth to be found in these books, but I don't believe we can literally translate every word of the Bible to relate to our present day lives.

For instance, one of my biggest "pet peeves" about Christians interpreting the New Testament is Paul's letters to the Corinthians concerning marriage. At the time that Paul was writing his letters, he wholeheartedly believed that Christ would return during his lifetime. He wrote his letters with this belief in mind, which I think, is something many Christians neglect to acknowledge. In 1 Corinthians 7, Paul promotes marriage as a means to remain pure and free from lust. Or as I've been known to sarcastically paraphrase, "If you can't be as awesome as I am enough to be celibate and are having trouble keeping your legs closed, you should probably get married."

I say this, not to be hurtful, but to shine some light on a scriptural instance when I think the Bible needs to be read "with a grain of salt."

So where am I going with all of this? I had a few responses to my post yesterday regarding The Bible, Love and the Gays, pointing out that I was only shedding light on Old Testament views on homosexuality, which is completely accurate. Today, I want to focus on my thoughts of the New Testament verse most often used in defense of the anti-gay stance taken by many Christians: 1 Corinthians 6:9.

Depending on which translation you read (I generally use the NIV), 1 Corinthians 6:9 reads:
"Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men."

My first issue with this is that in many of the newer translations, the term "homosexuality" is blatantly used when that word wasn't even invented until the 1800's. 

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My second issue (this is where the crudeness comes in, so please feel free to skip past this part) is with the fact that we're not talking about love, here. We're talking about sex. And with this mention of sex, I think it's important to get it out in the open- homosexuals who engage in sexual intercourse are participating in oral and anal sex. There, I said it.

And the thing about oral and anal sex is- perhaps you Bible-thumping Christians are right. Perhaps, cunnilingus and sodomy are "sinful." But do you have any idea how many monogamous, heterosexual couples are engaging in these same acts?! I've talked openly with my friends about our sex lives and the consensus is- the majority of us have not only done these things, but do them on the regular. So why are we not holding heterosexuals to this same harsh standard that we hold the LGBTQ community to?! Why are we condemning one person's sex life while remaining polite enough not to infringe upon someone else's? I don't think it's any of our business to become involved in another person's sex life..ever.

The Bible never tells us who to love (romantically speaking, that is).

The Bible does tells us who to love, familially speaking, however. And the words come straight from Jesus' own lips. I am a Red Letter Christian and will continue to love as I am commanded to.

5 comments:

  1. I've honestly never thought about it like that. Thank you for writing this and sharing your opinion. I've read so many back and forth posts on FB and blogs since the whole Duck Dynasty thing happened and your post was actually refreshing. I'm thinking of writing a post myself on the subject, but I read this one: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/12/19/duck-dynasty-bible-religion-palin-robertson-column/4124181/ and it basically took the words out of my mouth. I found it very interesting and true as well.

    -Logan

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  2. "you Bible thumping Christians" - Is this referring to people who think homosexuality is a sin? Are you putting me in this category? I am only asking b/c i am the one who commented on your last post about new/old testaments. But maybe that's not what you meant! I hope not, b/c i am FAR from a Bible-thumper! We have some similarities. I, too, believe the Bible was written by men. I, too, have opinions that strongly differ from the opinions of the majority of the church. I wish i was as confident of it as you are about it, but i'm not. I'm just genuinely unsure of the answer to this, and that is okay. I'm not someone you will ever see post anything on FB like I've seen lately - that stuff makes me sick to my stomach. I love the gay community. I would never preach at them to "turn from their wicked ways". I think that God is the one who deals with us as individuals. I think what is most important is that i worry about the sin in MY own life. I am no better than anyone.

    As far as anal or oral sex... i don't see a problem with these things between man & woman. The whole issue is people of the same sex committing these acts. I mean, i get what you are saying, but confused as to how this should help me see that 1 Cor 6:9 should be taken with a grain of salt.

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  3. Kaity,
    I'm writing this not to start a debate-in fact after I click publish I won't be getting back on to see anymore comments. Kaity, I'm urging you, no begging you to please please do your research before you post things like this on your blog. You have 441 followers on GFC alone so I'm sure you have quite a bit on bloglovin as well. This is your audience! Not many people can say that they have 441 people who are reading the words that they write. That's a gift and an honor! To say that the Bible should be taken "as a grain of salt" is ridiculous to me. How can you, as a human pick and choose what parts of The Bible are true and right for us today? It's as if you're saying, "I know this book is God inspired, but I think I know better than Him." How? All of the Bible was written and inspired by God and the truths in it are written very plainly. If we were to only take certain parts of it seriously what would be the point of it being written at all? 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says it pretty plainly, "Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God’s will in thought, purpose, and action),
    So that the man of God may be complete and proficient, well fitted and thoroughly equipped for every good work."
    Please Kaity, if you believe these things that's your deal but you have an influence so don't abuse it. It says in James 3:1 "Not many of you should become teachers. my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly." I know this verse is commonly referred to by people talking about pastors, but I believe that this refers to you as well because believe it or not you are teaching and people are listening. You have such a great influence to those around you. I can see where your heart is though, and I know you have the best of intentions. I'm not trying to stir up hate at all because I believe we are called to love like Jesus did. When He was defending the woman caught in adultery He said the verse that many refer to, "You who are without sin can cast the first stone." But then went on to say something many forget about, "Go and sin no more." We are not called to live in our sin, but it's a constant battle to be Holy like He is Holy which we can learn about in every page of The Bible. We should be constantly striving after a life that He would be proud of. Anyway, I hope this speaks to you in some way and you would ask The Lord to show you truth. That's all we can really do sometimes.

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  4. Hi Kaity! I just read these last few posts. Thank you for being brave enough to put this out there to (what I'm guessing is) a predominantly Christian audience who may not share the same views.

    And to those folks who have critical comments, it sounds to me like Kaity DID do her research and DID think deeply with her heart about this and DID write a disclaimer (in the title no less) that these are NOT meant to be a complete and thorough discourse on the contents of the Bible. Just because you disagree does not mean you can claim she made mistakes in these areas.

    And I think she is using her influence well :). So I suppose it's a matter of opinion there.

    I also think it's hilarious (read: sad) that folks can say they love homosexuals but still think that they are sinning (read: should not have the same rights as others). If you treat a group of people as second class citizens, do you really love them wholly? Really?

    I also appreciate your discourse about sex versus love. Brilliant.

    Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

    Love, Kristen Riley

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  5. Kristen,
    I never said i don't think they should have the same rights as others. I do!! I don't treat them as second class citizens & if you knew me, you would know that. You are assuming these things. I love Kaity & her blog & I am not criticizing her at all. If you saw my comment on her earlier post, you might know that i am genuinely just looking for answers & trying to do my own research, and thought it would be good to talk these things out with Kaity since she is a christian like me but one who has come to an understanding about these things. That's all.

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